"Our social grants programme was broadened to 17 million – a buffer against disaster for so many of our people," he said.
Meanwhile, former North West ANC chairperson Supra Mahumapelo pleaded with ANC leaders to stop debating Zuma's legacy in public. He was speaking on the sidelines of his court case, lodged to challenge the party's decision to disband the North West provincial executive committee (PEC). News24 senior politics reporter Tshidi Madia also talks to News24 associate editor for fast news Sheldon Morais about former Bosasa chief operations officer Angelo Agrizzi.
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